
Garderobe, Aydon Castle
Since my novels are romances, arrangements for some of the more mundane aspects of life are rarely mentioned, although Tilda, the heroine of my novel The Monk’s Tale, does use a visit to the outhouse at an inn as an excuse to meet Mark, her prospective rescuer. My recent visits to castles in the North East has provided me with many examples of latrines and garderobes and I thought some of them might be of interest.
Since castles were usually built on top of hills they weren’t always near running water, which could be a problem when it came to disposing of waste. If you were fortunate enough to be by a river or the sea, garderobes could be positioned over the moat, which would take the waste to them. None of the castles I visited this year were that blessed.
In many castles, like Aydon in the picture at the top of the post, the garderobe chutes jutted out a little from the external wall and waste simply fell to the ground. I’m sure one of the lower servants was tasked with clearing it up and taking it away every now and again.
Some people had private garderobes. This wasn’t a matter of privacy, but of status. Privacy wasn’t something that really concerned people in the Middle Ages. Many latrines were communal, with people sitting next to one another. They weren’t always situated where they were most needed, but the lord could have one where it was most convenient for him.
Strictly speaking, Aydon Castle isn’t a castle, but a fortified manor house. I’ll still use it as an example, though, as its lord had a private garderobe. As you can see in the photograph below, the Garderobe Tower extends beyond the wall of the castle and is on the edge of a ravine. It was just off the solar block where the lord and his family slept and spent most of their time when they were indoors. Only they had access to their garderobe.

Garderobe Tower, Aydon Castle
Garderobes and latrine blocks today, like other castle buildings, look grim and grey, but that’s not necessarily how they looked in the Middle Ages. Here’s a photograph I took of an English heritage information board at Old Sarum. It’s an artist’s impression of the king’s privy. As you can see, it might have been quite cosy. You’ll notice that the king has a servant with him.

Old Sarum
The king’s privy was over a deep pit at the bottom of which were straw and bark chippings. Someone had to be lowered on a rope into the pit to dig it out when the king wasn’t in residence. I imagine the smell would have disturbed him too much if it had been done while he was there, since it was close to the royal apartments.
Here’s a latrine pit at Old Sarum.

Latrine pit, Old Sarum
There are latrines everywhere at Conisbrough Castle, serving not just the lord’s family, but soldiers and servants as well.
The one in the photograph below was probably for the soldiers guarding the keep. It’s just off the entrance chamber at the bottom of the keep. There would have been some kind of wooden seat on top of the stone, but the hole would have been open to the elements. It would have been unpleasant to use at any time of year, but must have been particularly bad during freezing weather in winter.

Latrine, off the keep’s entrance chamber, Conisbrough Castle
This one was the lord’s. It was private, just off his bedchamber. It really doesn’t look any more comfortable than that of the soldiers. It was higher up, though, and further away from any unpleasant smells.

Latrine off the bedchamber, Conisbrough Castle
It has a long chute.
This one might have been for prisoners in their prison cell, but it’s just as likely to have been for soldiers and servants.
Here’s the latrine pit, which, you guessed it, someone had to dig out.

Latrine pit, Conisbrough Castle
There were, as you can see, a few ways of dealing with waste. None of them can have been entirely satisfactory, especially if you were the one who had to dig it out and dispose of it.
Sources:
Aydon Castle by Henry Summerson
Old Sarum by John McNeill
Conisbrough Castle by Stephen Brindle and Agnieszka Sadraei
April Munday is the author of the Soldiers of Fortune and Regency Spies series of novels, as well as standalone novels set in the fourteenth century.
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I wonder if they dug a hole and created what we know as “the long drop”? The long drop of my childhood was at Nana’s place a wooden oblong structure with a hole shaped like a ordinary toilet seat all wastes dropped into a barrel. In Mums era a lucky chap got to dispose of it via a horse and cart!!
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It’s a similar idea to the latrine pit, except there wasn’t a barrel and the number of people involved was larger.
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I can see why all this doesn’t quite work in a romance. But in its own disgusting way, it’s fascinating. I’m glad you wrote about it.
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It’s what comes of asking too many questions about how people managed to live in these places. It’s definitely not something I’d like to experience, especially when I suspect that my ancestors would have been the ones digging out the pits.
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It’s always the basic things and how they managed them that fascinates me. Having read this post, I am very grateful for indoor flushing loos!
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Me too.
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“Many latrines were communal, with people sitting next to one another.”
Is it safe to assume that there were no walls or doors between people in these latrines?
I would have a hard time going to the washroom under those conditions! Although if you grew up with it such a thing probably felt perfectly ordinary. 🙂
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There were no walls or doors between the people, but bear in mind that these are all men. The only women in the castle would be the lord’s family and their maidservants, who would, I suspect, have access to the lord’s private garderobe.
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The Romans and Greeks used communal baths, I have seen long benches with appropriate holes lining a wall in a room. Though I think the Romans used running water to help move the waste along. They were civilized. 😊
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It all depended on whether or not you had running water nearby. When we get on to monasteries, we’ll see that they were often built in valleys and the latrines drained into rivers. A castle in a valley wasn’t much use, unless it was on the coast.
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I find toilets fascinating. I used a long drop for months in Africa…a plank with a great yawning pit of awful stuff underneath…though we did get individual sheds. Not a place I’d romance in 😀 :D. And I recently stayed in a place with an electric toilet…no water, just a weekly handful of compost and it churns your poo into … more compost!…which you empty only occasionally from a tray underneath. That was kind of cool…
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I like the idea of a composting toilet. I’m a lot less enamoured of toilets than you are, though. They’re necessary (and ‘the necessary’ was once a euphemism for them) and I like to think of people working hard to improve them, but that’s as far as it goes.
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I am fascinated by the bodys ability to produce stuff…imagine an economic structure that uses body product instead of money….real equality 😀 😀 😀
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I don’t think the world is ready for that yet.
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brings a whole new meaning to not giving a shit. 😀
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I enjoyed reading this. Your research is always impressive and I appreciate your sharing it with us. I can also understand why this subject doesn’t make it into a romance story 🙂
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Thank you, Dan. Not surprisingly, I don’t have any plans to introduce it.
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Great post April, I have a soft spot for ancient toilets.
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Having used some fairly basic ones in my youth, I don’t have a soft spot for them at all.
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😀
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Oh it makes you feel so lucky that we have indoor plumbing and such luxuries. I think my ancestors would’ve been the ones doing the digging dirty work too! As always a really interesting read.
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Thank you, Rachael. I am very grateful for my bathroom, tiny though it is.
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Adding this information to a story enlightens readers. The hardest history to uncover is that regarding personal functions. Childbirth, sleep (especially for peasants & servants), food preparation, food production, & menstruation are others.
Finding a place to work them in without being disgusting requires tact, but done well, helps to make our perceptions of bygone times real and fascinating.
Most folks roll their eyes at dry historical data, but stuff like this draws them in & makes history fascinating. We need more of it to counteract the Hollwoodizing of history. American media moguls, especially, overdo some aspects of life & totally ignore others in historical productions. Skewing is rife. This is probably why English historical productions are gaining favor.
It starts with good writers, like you, April. ♥☺
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Thank you. If I was writing straight historical fiction, I would probably bring this sort of stuff in, but I don’t think readers of romances necessarily want to read about it.
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I find the details of day-to-day medieval life fascinating, even if not pleasant. You may have covered this previously, but what’s the difference between a latrine and a garderobe?
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I think the guarderobe is for a single person and a latrine is communal. None of my sources was clear on that point, so I’ll have to update the post when I find the answer
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As a child in Germany we had two separate stalls. The results were taken out yearly and dumped into a garden pit were it composted. It was then spread as fertilizer. One winter I was poked by a frozen stalagmite of poo,what fun.
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There are some necessary tasks that are really a lot more unpleasant than others.
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It is a matter of perspective. When something is all you know,it just is. My first indoor plumbing came at age eleven.
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